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    Posted: 08 Jul 2009 at 9:13pm
Hi.  First time here.  I was researching a Tiger D barebones and came across this mfr. at the Tom's Hardware website.  I am very impressed.  The machines are comparable in terms of price once you add in the HD, VC, Optical and OS.  The specs seem to include superior parts (CPU and VC) than anything you would get in a barebones.  I'm not a PC junkie so some of this is a challenge for me.  Analysis-paralysis sets in pretty frequently as I get overwhelmed.

I have a 5 yo VP Matrix (Best Buy) and I play Q3 and Qlive.  I feel the low end prebuilt will give me the performance that I need.  I'm a little concerned that DS leaves the exact specs open on the prebuilts (MFR name etc.) , but they seem to have a good reputation in most regards.

Is this config OK for a light gamer?

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsavedsd.asp?id=298890

Also, I inquired in Live Chat and got no reply.  Instead got "we will respond to you soon".  That's not live chat as I know it.  How does this work with DS?
Also - I can't find any accessories such as keyboard and mouse.  Where do I
look?

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Jul 2009 at 9:23pm
in that same link go down the page to accessories and you will see keyboard/mouse and stuff.

what resolution will you be gaming at?

DS closes at 5 pm pst.

if you need help call Sarah at 1-866-817-8676 Extension: 115 and she will set you up tomorrow
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  Quote bmchan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Jul 2009 at 9:33pm
I need to get a new monitor.  I currently have a 15" Samsung SyncMaster 151V.  I have no idea what to get.

Thanks for the reply.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Jul 2009 at 9:53pm
well the 250 gts is not that powerfull, so if your monitor's resolution is gonna be higher then 1400 x 1000 then you are not gonna be too happy with the gpu.

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  Quote satsunada Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jul 2009 at 2:18am
what's the total budget we're looking at here, monitor and all, and we can probably help more?
Oh ya, you'd have better luck messing around with the configurator during the day if you want help from a rep, generally in their working hours. I got 5 little clicky boxes asking if i needed assistance today just look at other people's configs so they seem eager to help on that end.

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  Quote Sarah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jul 2009 at 12:26pm
bmchan, if you need some help, have questions, or even are ready to purchase then im here for you. Give me a call 1-866-817-8676 ext 115 or just ask for Sarah.
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  Quote bmchan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jul 2009 at 4:39pm
Thanks Sarah - we spoke earlier today.  MB looks good and I'm not overly converned about the GPU strength based on what I am running today - GeForce 6600 256MB and 1GB ram.  As long as I have the ability to upgrade the cards I'm fine.
 
Now I need the OK from SWMBO.
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  Quote bmchan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2009 at 2:39pm
Pulled my trigger today on a prebuilt.  Thanks Sarah. 
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  Quote Sarah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2009 at 2:47pm
No problem, glad I could help you out!
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2009 at 4:15pm
well size psu does it have? and what resolution are you gonna be gaming at?

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  Quote bmchan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2009 at 7:04pm
The PSU on my prebuilt is 475W.  My current PC is a 5 or 6yo Wintel (VP Matrix from Best Buy) ) and the current resolution is 1024 x 678 (32 bit).  The card is a Nvidia GeForce 6600GT (128MB).  I lost the ability to upgrad my GPU drivers three years ago so I haven't tweaked my settings in some time. 

Again, the only game I play is Q3 and Qlive.  That could change.  The new card is the Nvidia GTS 250 which is a renamed 9800 with 1MB and it's not a powerful card but....

I'm amazed at what peeps spend on these machines.  My budget was in the $1M range +/-.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2009 at 9:06pm
Well then you do understand that you can't go any higher then the 250 gts card cause the next card above that is the 260 GTX and it needs a 450W PSU, and you might think that yes well I have a 475W but you need to take into account that with the rest of you system's power needs you will not have enough to run even a 260 GTX.

so in short you can't upgrade to a higher card then what you have since your PSU will not support it.

the 250 gts will do fine tho for your current resolution. So if you are not worried about being able to upgrade this pc then you are fine
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  Quote bmchan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2009 at 9:39pm
Thanks.

The cost to upgrade the PSU is short money if I want to get the 260 GTX at some point.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2009 at 9:42pm
you will need a 750w or a 650w, take into account the price you already paid for the current GPU and PSU, and you see you are paying more then if you just go with a 260 and a 750w now.

not counting the labor of installing the new PSU, but if its all OK with you then thats what counts, and if you are OK with all that then more power to you I'm just making sure you get the full picture
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  Quote bmchan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2009 at 10:08pm
Your observation (and math) is right on.

You missed the  part above about SWMBO.

I've been married for over 35 years and I know the limits and when to push them.  I can easily afford a much more powerful system but I will pay a higher price.  Does that make sense?

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2009 at 10:15pm
Ya makes perfect sense , like I said I'm just sharing the info, if you already know it and its all fine with you then more power to you boss and congrats be sure to post specs and review when you get it

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  Quote bmchan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 3:15pm
Tonight is the night I crank this up.  It arrived on Tuesday as promised and you know it takes hours not minutes to set it up and then begin to fathom configuration of utilities, passwords, file transfer etc.  I have bought a new mouse and keyboard and will get a 20" LCD on the way home from work.  My PC CPU is set up under an ecutive desk with a return and the wiring is a nightmare underneath.
 
This way I can set these two up side by side and do my thing.  Hope to get one Quake Live session in before the evening is over.
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  Quote hemi392 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 10:04pm
hey your computer sounds like mine i got a old vpr matrix from best buy as well 2.8ghz 1gb mem nivida 6200 video card i can hardly run my games with it thats why i decided to get a new one from ds here.
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  Quote bmchan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Jul 2009 at 8:40am
My Matrix was (or is) a good machine  Fired up the DS last night and all went very well with one exception.  One of the screws for the Monitor DVI-D plug seated in the female bolt and it came out.  Nothing a little bolt adhesive won't fix.

I bought a 20" LG monitor (1600 x 900) and it was DVI-D ready but the freakin thing didn't come with a plug.  It took two trips to Best Buy to get a plug for the monitor.
$45 later and I was all set.

Anyway - the graphics are amazing.  I play quake live, which is not a demanding game graphically, and I was blown away with the graphics/details.

This machine is sweet!

Transferring stuff over is a royal pain.
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