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Meller
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Topic: JayzTwoCents Teases EVGA 1080 SuperClock Posted: 26 May 2016 at 3:18pm |
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https://twitter.com/JayzTwoCents/status/735861337507528704
Interesting new take they have on the ACX cooler design. I'm curious as to what performance changes we can expect with the 3.0 when compared to the 2.0. I am starting to worry though a little bit about this single Power Connector on the cards. Throw it under water, I don't really see anything higher than like 2,100-2,200mhz happening due to power restrictions. So I'm hoping non-FE, custom PCB cards will have two power connectors on them. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 3:19pm | |
http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/05/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1080-FTW-VC-2.jpg
Of course if that leak is anything to go by (and videocardz.com usually is as they will let you know if they found a post of theirs to contain false data)... then my overclocking worries are no longer a concern. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 3:21pm | |
The FTW has dual 8-pin connectors with a taller PCB (more space for VRMs I would think).
http://videocardz.com/60333/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-acx-3-0-superclocked-and-ftw-pictured |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 3:22pm | |
http://hothardware.com/news/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-superclocked-avx-30-edition-and-gtx-1080-sli-sneak-peek
Sweet jesus.. I realize I'm linking a lot, but I'm finding so much in regards to the 1080's and EVGA's SC version. Benchmarks included in that link with SLI numbers. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 3:23pm | |
I beat you by like 2 minutes on that one. ;) |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 3:24pm | |
Yeah, I saw that just as I posted it. There will be a Classy version, too. The designs of these cards are fugly...hopefully any performance gains are worth it.
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 3:28pm | |
http://videocardz.com/60325/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-amp-and-amp-extreme-pictured
This is turning into my 1080 Megathread. I agree. People are loving the new ACX look, and I'm just like... ew. I mean, it'll have a water block on it regardless... but really, that ugly ass cooler better be worth dealing with it's horrible appearance. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 3:30pm | |
http://videocardz.com/60340/asus-rog-strix-geforce-gtx-1080-pictured
I'm liking that led set up for the new "supposed" ASUS Strix 1080. But overall, man I'm just not getting the new appearances of cooler designs for the 1080. I thought the FE looked pretty sweet, but these aftermarket takes on that slant design are very off putting. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 3:31pm | |
Also, if you pre-ordered a 1080 FE, it looks like some users are reporting they have shipped.
http://imgur.com/keAH858 http://imgur.com/sTpNq9N Edited by Meller - 26 May 2016 at 3:33pm |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 3:34pm | |
Don't forget the others:
Asus Strix Gigabyte Xtreme Gainward Phoenix Inno3d iChill Yeah the industrial design of some of these things make them look like they are designed by 12 year olds. I appreciate a slick design aesthetic like what DS has where there are subtle flourishes to it. Other things of good taste are the BMW Designworks stuff that Thermaltake and ASRock put out. But a lot of things are just going over-the-top. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 4:06pm | |
Agreed
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 4:17pm | |
Oh, you should keep in mind that traditionally EK doesn't make full cover blocks for the FTW cards. They usually only do reference (SC and SSC cards have reference layouts) and Classy (plus Kingpin).
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 4:20pm | |
I've heard, from a few people on the inside that EK is going to be releasing a whole new line of blocks, to include more "exclusive" full covers as my source said it. Now I know that doesn't mean full covers for all of EVGA's, but it does mean we'll start seeing a wider variety of full covers.
Plus, I'll end up going with a 1080 Ti Classified probably for my loop. So I'm not worried about finding a full cover. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 4:46pm | |
Yeah, I'm going to be overhauling my system, as well, with either Caby Lake/Pascal (probably 1080 Ti) or Zen/Vega depending on how well AMD executes. EVGA's warranty is the best when it comes to water cooling the GPU's. I will have to keep packaging in mind for my Bolt II...6" tall cards can barely fit with some modification, but water cooling on top of that won't work without an Original CSQ block with ports on the side instead of the FC Terminal on top.
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 4:52pm | |
CaseLabs (as over used as they are) has this amazing new TH10A case that I'm really wanting to build into. It can hold 4x 560 rad's, so I really want to go overboard with it. We all know nvidia will hold out for the new AMD releases later this year before we see the Ti Class (give or take like 7-9 months I'd think... sooner if AMD actually releases a nice card). Problem is, 4x 560mm Rad's when most people will be running 2 way SLI... what can I cool! I could cool my CPU, RAM, Motherboard, and 2 x GPU with a single 560 Rad... maybe a 480 + a 240 max.
Ugh, hopefully we have some developer attention thrown towards three way SLI to make this worth it. Of course, if AMD actually releases beast ass cards, then my cooling probably won't be over kill. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 May 2016 at 9:08pm | |
speculation on the 1080ti specs? i've heard HBM2 is taping out for third quarter. should be around the time to be included on 1080ti and Titan. if so, i'm betting on a 250W card based on GP102 =3840 CUDA cores. more or less equal to SLI 1080's. potentially the first single graphics card to drive 4k properly?
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 12:21am | |
To me, those double-wide cases look like filing cabinets. You could look at Peltier or Carnot Cycle sub-zero cooling to increase the thermal load, if you wanted. We have yet to see some tests and benchmarks where people really start cranking the voltage on the Pascal's, but if they have voltage scaling more like Kepler than Maxwell, you could get some more speed out of them. You go to LAN parties, right? Why not try to make the ultimate LAN rig? The TH10A isn't really practical for hauling to LAN parties, but if you built something in a smaller package, you may be able to transport it to the events you attend.
I'd say this is more probable. The 1080 is close; the 1080 Ti and Titan will exceed 60fps for just about everything. AMD isn't going to be releasing Vega until early next year, so Nvidia has some time. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 11:40am | |
I don't go to lan parties. And that shape is what replaced my original love of the STH10. I love a huge case like that, but the THW10 has such amazing room inside, but without being 4 feet tall. The STH10 makes the 900D look short... I love the looks of the THW10. The room for modding, and the room for design on your loop lay out is amazing. To each their own. But Case Labs has my heart, I don't care how much we see people using them. A Case labs case is that last thing I need to make my PC a truly enthusiast, beastly build. Everything else is too main stream.. for me. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 12:55pm | |
There's enough room in the back side of the THW10 for three compressors - one for your CPU and each GPU. That's the only way I can think of using all of space and radiators.
For the money the large CaseLabs cases cost, you could start looking at an Aventum 3 that has 280 + 420 + 560 rads in a package only 1.2" higher, 0.1" wider, and 0.3" longer than the 900D. Broadwell-E is coming up, it may be an opportune time to do a complete system upgrade. Get a configuration like this where you get the motherboard (Rampage VI?) and processor (i7-6950X perhaps) you want and then add and plumb in your water-cooled Classified 1080 Ti's (or Hydro Copper if the specs will be the same now), swap out memory, the PSU, and anything else you want changed (CPU/motherboard waterblock or fans possibly), and add in storage. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 1:03pm | |
Let's ignore comparing the Aventum 3 case to cases like the CaseLabs cases. I'm not going to trash talk a company who's forums I'm on. While it's a nice case, I don't like it's layout enough to allow for the side of rads I want, the thickness I want, with still plenty of room to breathe.
I'm going to put 4x 560mm Rads (not sure which one and what thickness just yet... but it'll be epic) with enough room for some 280 or larger mm Res (which is a big thing for me, since the Aventum uses those tiny bastards. I'll end up probably doing triple GTX 1080 (Ti)'s, with a s high as a stable OC I can get on one loop, then I'll put my CPU, Motherboard, and Ram on another loop. I might drop one of the 560mm's and just run 3, to give me extra cabling room, etc... If I can find the right fin density vs thickness combo on a 560mm, I could get away with just one for each loop... but we go enthusiast here. The Aventum, while a beautiful case with several amenities that I like (like fitting pass throughs), but the Aventum doesn't meet my requirements for design and capabilities of what it can hold. Plus, I can build a quad 560mm build, with all fittings and glass tubing for under $10k. That's using a $880 CaseLabs case. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 1:23pm | |
http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/radiator-round-2015/10/
The EK XE radiator came out on top, but it is only in sizes for 120MM fans (their 140mm CE radiator is 45mm thick and EK's 45mm thick radiator reviewed was only so-so in performance). The runner up, the Hardware Labs SR2, does have a 560mm radiator, so that would probably be the one to go with. The EK-Vardar F3-140ER or FF4-140 fan is the best high static pressure fan out ther right now. Running the radiators in push/pull (8 per radiator) would give you the best performance and acoustics. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 1:52pm | |
I have a few that I'm looking at, I have to find the perfect combo between fin density vs radiator thickness, on top of how it looks/materials it'd made of (in case I need to paint it).
The Aventum just doesn't fit specific designer needs I have is all. I will be sharing certain ideas, such a pass through fittings though. I plan on buying either Noctua's 2000 rpm 31Db fans or their louder but stronger bigger brother, the 3000 rpm but rocks a 41Db. The 2000 rpm I think will actually be perfect if I run 560mm rad's. I will have enough cooling space that I should be able to run them as long as possibly, making it a dead silent machine. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 2:23pm | |
like Meller said, the Aventum is limiting. when i ordered mine i wanted to swap out those end of life XSPC rads for HWLabs slim rads and i was told that only 2 out of the 3 rads could be swapped out. the third rad (not sure which) was pretty much a necessity to keep the same (like the case was designed around the specific rad instead of the other way around). instead of mix-matching i decided to keep it "stock". perhaps someone like Meller could modify the Aventum case and get it to work, but most of us can't or won't. which leads me to worry about when i need to replace that particular rad what happens? it was end of life when the system was new. hopefully DS keeps an adequate supply for years to come...
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 2:40pm | |
That's quite interesting. I'd love to see the engineering behind the Aventum, now. I'm curious as to placement and set up of the inner guts of the Aventum. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 3:08pm | |
The Noctua fans that were shown at Computex last year look interesting but haven't made it to market. Noctua fans haven't tested well and Martin's Liquid Lab could never understand why they were so popular. They still fall short of the less expensive EK fans in airflow (when mounted on a radiator) to noise. Manufacturers rated noise levels are notoriously bogus, so I wouldn't pay any attention to them.
Mount the EK F3-140ER with a shroud/decoupler in push/pull to the radiator and you'll have the best set-up you can get. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 3:14pm | |
The reason you can't swap out the upper radiator is that instead of connecting the radiator to the visible plexi distribution block with tube, there is another plexi piece that connects directly to the radiator up top. Since you can't change the location of the inlet and outlet on the radiator in any of the three spacial dimensions, that limits the type of radiator. If you want to change out the radiator up top, you'd need to attach some fittings for tubes where the fittings between the plexi pieces are. Then you could simply route the tubes to allow a radiator of a different size to fit in the top of the case. There may be a need for securing it to the case or something, but it shouldn't be too hard. Edited by - 27 May 2016 at 3:20pm |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 3:23pm | |
Yea, that's too much work. At that point I'd create a brand new plexi-tubing into possibly a new Window on the door. Then find a way to just take some soft tubing or possibly just some fitting tubed to the new connections.
I find that dealing with pre-fabricated custom hardware is just a pain to re-purpose said hardware with new stuff. Just too much work. I mean, if I left it towards a wall, I just remove all of that and use soft tubing. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 3:31pm | |
It's probably a G1/4" tap up there so it'd be a simple fitting replacement. Nothing like the drill and tap job I did on my EK pump top (pictures in my Bolt II Review thread).
DS was also using flex tubing for all of the distribution in the prototypes they showed off at CES: Edited by - 27 May 2016 at 3:34pm |
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2016 at 3:50pm | |
funny how that wasn't even floated to me as an option. perhaps i'll send it to in a few years
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