New DS Customer: Setup advicePost Date: 2015-08-28 |
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Orcvader
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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Topic: New DS Customer: Setup advice Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 12:07pm |
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$3k Expectations: Fallout 4 in Ultra Usage: Gaming only (and light browsing) Special Needs: None Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm Apollo Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 5820K 3.3GHz (Six-Core) (Unlocked CPU) Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-X99-SLI (Intel X99 Chipset) System Memory: 16GB DDR4 2800MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX (High-Performance) Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA (750 B1) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: - No Thanks Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (250GB Samsung 850 EVO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Seagate) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (Includes PhysX) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) H20 Tube Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Chassis Fans: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Blue) (Up to 6 Fans) Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Hello DS Community! I impulse-purchased (no joke, damn you BillMeLater/Paypal) the above configuration 2 days ago. I don't recall the last time I was this excited about a purchase! Now, with more time to think about it I've been wondering if I have all the right pieces in place. My concerns are: 1. DO I have enough cooling? 2. Is the PS powerful enough? 3. Is this the right MOBO for single GPU? 4. How do I know if the SSD will be attached to be MOBO via M.2? |
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Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 12:33pm |
1) Yes, you have enough cooling. The CPU is being cooled by a 240mm radiator that can dissipate up to 600W of cooling. The CPU is rated for 140W and any overclock DS puts on it at the 4.0-4.4 GHz level won't raise it to more than 175W. The GPU has the integrated blower-style cooler on it and can handle itself.
2) Yes, the PSU is powerful enough for your system. You can technically add a second GPU if you wanted, but you may need to remove the overclock on the CPU to handle everything. You'd want to measure the power draw under heavy load at the wall power outlet to determine what you can handle. 3) It's a fine motherboard for what you have. I don't believe DS has a cheaper option available for the X99 platform. 4) The SSD you selected has a SATA interface and will be connected to the SATA port. The only drives that use the M.2 are the Intel drives with the SFF-8643 connectors that use a hyper card kit in the M.2 slots. The motherboard you selected only has up to x2 PCI-e 2.0 lanes, 1/4 the bandwidth the drives can use with the x4 PCI-e 3.0 interfaces...you'd need to switch up motherboards to get that. You can, however, use the PCI-e card SSDs at full bandwidth. |
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Orcvader
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 2:46pm |
You are so helpful! Thanks!! Can You please follow up on #4? Does this mean that the Video Card, also connected to a PCI-e slot (right?) is going to be slowed down in any way due to limited MOBO bandwidth? Ugh... I recall when these things were easier. Buy an AGP card, avoid PCI and max out those 512MB of RAM... :) |
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db188
DS Veteran Joined: 29 Jul 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2115 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 3:17pm |
that specific mobo is designed for up to sli x4 (x16/x8/x8/x8 config); or 3-way (x16/x16/x8) getting 100% of all pcie lanes from the cpu. in other words, you don't have to worry about bandwidth issues (other than the limitations of the specific cpu you choose) from competing devices over the pcie connections. this board even has dual M.2 slots. of course, you have to make sure you get the correct versions of whatever device (wi-fi, ssd storage) you intend to run on M.2. the board also features SATA Express (with data transfer speeds up to 10Gb/s over normal SATA speed of 6Gb/s), but that will disable the M.2. however, i don't think anyone actually makes a commercially available SATAe drive, and regular SATA drives plugged into a SATAe slot only function at regular SATA III speed (6Gb/s).
i'm not sure which version of the Samsung EVO you purchased. if it's just the standard 2.5" SATA drive you can't use it in the M.2 slot. if you decide to purchase a pcie storage drive, you won't have a bandwidth problem running it with even 2x vid cards at the same time because of this board's high-end capabilities. the cpu (I7-5820K) however, does restrict you to 28 pcie lanes. your config would then look like this (x16/x8/x4), with the gpu's running at x16/x8 and the storage at x4 speeds. numerous tests have confirmed there is virtually no real world impact on video card performance when dropping from x16 to x8 performance. Edited by db188 - 28 Aug 2015 at 3:37pm |
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 4:48pm |
Hi Orcvader,
db188 has answered your questions but here are my thoughts on your power supply. If you think you might someday want to add a second GPU I would go with the 850 Super Nova PS. It never hurts to have a little extra power available. Or, the 750 Super Nova is modular and you could change it out in the future if you decide to add a second GPU. Only problem is you pay twice for a PS. As db188 said, the 750 is fine for this system as is. Frank |
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Orcvader
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 5:53pm |
You guys have been remarkably helpful! Thanks again!
So, essentially, my "limits" (on the MOBO) circle around the amount of "lanes" available more than the capacity of the lanes actually in use... So, since I don't plan to use SLI and I am fine with the 850 SSD on SATA - I should see no artificial limitations on the CPU and MOBO (beyond their own total capacity, of course)? Thanks again, awesome community! |
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db188
DS Veteran Joined: 29 Jul 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2115 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 6:24pm |
on this particular mobo, the way they've engineered and configured it (from their printed material): " thanks to the onboard external clock generator combined with the direct connection of one of the x16 lanes to the CPU (switchless design), GIGABYTE X99 motherboards can unlock the full bandwidth available and provide the best graphics bandwidth possible to the user." lower end motherboards don't utilize 100% of the possible lanes, which is why you'll see 3 and 4-way sli configs on lesser boards drop down to x8 on all vid card slots and disable the M.2 slot when the other pcie slots are occupied with multiple gpu's. imo, you've got a lot of mobo for what you've stated your needs are. this is an expensive board for just 1x vid card, even when you factor in the possibility of expanding your storage with high speed pcie cards. |
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Orcvader
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 6:49pm |
Great, thanks!
Why do people use so many GPU's these days (I know it's probably a crazy-stupid question). Is it due to multiple high-res monitors at a time? This and speccing out a new car are the ONLY purchasing experiences I enjoy! Edited by Orcvader - 28 Aug 2015 at 6:50pm |
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db188
DS Veteran Joined: 29 Jul 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2115 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 7:16pm |
that and it's really the only way (currently) to enjoy 4k (if you can get sli to work well in the game) gaming.
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Orcvader
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 7:58pm |
But a single card should do 1440p fine, right?
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db188
DS Veteran Joined: 29 Jul 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2115 |
Quote Reply Posted: 29 Aug 2015 at 12:10am |
single card, single monitor, yes for the most part. you will see minimum frames at points drop to 40-ish depending on the game (like GTAV). this is of course with settings at high to ultra without any advanced features (like hairworks) turned on.
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