NO IDEA WHAT TO DO FOR FIRST BUILD PLS HELPPost Date: 2016-07-05 |
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blurryface
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Topic: NO IDEA WHAT TO DO FOR FIRST BUILD PLS HELP Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 1:51am |
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This will be my first desktop and I have no idea where to start
Budget: $2,400 without accessories (this is flexible, but really not wanting to spend what I don't need to) The lower the better!(: Expectations: I expect great performance throughout the next 4 years with a single monitor. Usage: Mainly buying this to start YouTube and streaming actually. Lots of serious gaming at high (not max) quality and video editing this gameplay with a facecam in 1080p videos. Only light streaming. Special Needs: Looking for something beautiful that shows just how good of a PC it is. I was thinking the Bolt 3 would be a perfect case. Again, I'm not sure where to start. I would like the Bolt 3, but I don't want anything overkill for what I'm doing. Any help is greatly appreciated. |
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Snaike
Moderator Group Just a dude trying to keep the spam away Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 9462 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 2:11am | |
Good morning blurryface and welcome to the DS forums.
The configuration gurus will be along shortly. They are going to ask what monitor you plan on using, so perhaps there's a start... |
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 2:37am | |
Hi blurryface,
Here is a build that gives you everything you need for a 1080 monitor. Going fishing so others will comment. Frank Digital Storm Desktop - Config ID 1447593 Cost: $2,274.00 System Configuration: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm Coridium Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 6700K 4.0GHz (Codename Skylake) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING (Intel Z170 Chipset) (Up to 5x PCI-E Devices) System Memory: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) (Internal) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (250GB Samsung 850 EVO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce GTX 1070 8GB (NVIDIA Founders Edition) (VR Ready) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H115i - 280mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow) Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.4GHz (Depends on Cooling and Motherboard) Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value) Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement) Digital Storm Coridium |
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 2:42am | |
Frank... Going fishing ? See you there.
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 8:30am | |
Frank's build is great I would just change cpu cooling to noctua, other than that looks great
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giants84
Newbie Joined: 15 May 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 90 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 8:40am | |
Wait for the 3rd party 1070s.
Edited by giants84 - 05 Jul 2016 at 8:41am |
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DS Veteran Joined: 28 Oct 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1674 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 9:55am | |
$2400 is a little bit stiff to get a good Bolt 3. Here is a $2800 system that will meet your needs for gaming, streaming, and video editing:
https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=1447716
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 10:13am | |
I have to say for me personally I don't like the bolt, it makes me feel claustrophobic everytime I see it.
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 10:27am | |
Its not like you have to sit inside it. Yes, I do get what you're saying. |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 10:35am | |
lol I feel like I'm the mobo or gpu and etc, and man move over there is no room to breath, for the love of god.
LOL that is what I feel when I look at it I feel bad for the parts and feel like they are about to have a panic attack any second now Edited by DST4ME - 05 Jul 2016 at 10:36am |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 10:40am | |
Can you hear the screams ?
My God, let them out. |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 10:44am | |
Well we're movin on up,
To the big side. To a deluxe full tower Velox in the sky. Movin on up, To the big side. We finally got a piece of the pie. Edited by DST4ME - 05 Jul 2016 at 10:46am |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 10:50am | |
Got it, George.
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blurryface
Newbie Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 4:02pm | |
Thanks for the suggestions guys. It may sound bad but I wanted a bolt 3 because, well, it's pretty lmao. It isn't possible to config a good one under 2.4k?
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 4:16pm | |
Here's a great Bolt config for your 1080p monitor gaming.
Config # 1447914. Cost $ 2215 Just plug the config # into Load Config up top. I can't paste right now. The gtx 1070 is excellent 1080p gaming. Hope this helps. |
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blurryface
Newbie Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 4:51pm | |
Thanks! :D Taking more suggestions to look at if anyone has them.
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blurryface
Newbie Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 4:55pm | |
How does HydroLux Cooling work? Do I have to change anything out manually later on?
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 5:02pm | |
The Hydrolux Pro in the Bolt is no maintenance for 3 years, according to the manufacturer. You might have to add fluid at some time, but not enough info to know for sure.
The only swapping out would be if you cool the gpu with it and change or upgrade the video card. |
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db188
DS Veteran Joined: 29 Jul 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2115 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 5:21pm | |
i like no name's build and i'll tell you why: you're going to want the best cpu you can afford, and when i say "best" i mean best for what you want to do with your pc. streaming and playing at the same time in the same system is going to perform better on more cores/threads because of the way encoding works distributing the workload over each core evenly. does that mean you should dump most of your budget on an 8-core proc? no! you can get by with an I7 4-core w/HT if that 6-core is too much, but i'd advise sticking with his build recommendation.
the graphics card is the next most important component. converting your stream from 1080p to 720p with game running, overlays, web cam, yada yada...get as much as you can afford. 16GB of ram is fine, but you could benefit from more if you can find it in your budget. any SATA ssd is fine, just get one or more with large capacity. |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 5:28pm | |
My build was for under $2400. If budget is more, the more cores and stronger video card are the way to go. All about the budget.
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db188
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 5:31pm | |
i get that bprat buddy, no offense, but in the case of streaming and gaming an I5 is really going to hinder him. he's better off lowering the gpu to the minimum of his monitor resolution/games he intends to play/stream, which at 1080p (with a little headroom for running the streaming software) is in the area of a GTX 970 or better card.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 7:50pm | |
He needs to wait for the 1060 to come out and then do a config, that should allow him an i7 and a good gpu, right now its tough.
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db188
DS Veteran Joined: 29 Jul 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2115 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 9:04pm | |
yeah, or get an RX480 and oc it. that's GTX 980 level performance at $250.
Edited by db188 - 05 Jul 2016 at 9:05pm |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 9:39pm | |
That is another way but not my cup of tea.
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blurryface
Newbie Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 10:05pm | |
Woah thanks, I don't have the slightest clue about changing liquid but okay haha. I guess I'll save the extra money and get a future proof pc for my needs. thanks again(:
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 10:12pm | |
"Future proof" does not exist, as far as games closest you gonna get to it is upgrading gpus in 2 years.
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blurryface
Newbie Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 10:14pm | |
yikes
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jul 2016 at 10:21pm | |
Technology my friend, it moves so fast that todays gpus are good for about 2 -3 years at best for max res/settings.
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jul 2016 at 2:10am | |
No offense taken, db. That's what we're here for. Just a bit more money gets the OP a lot more of what he wants. |
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hoserator
DS Veteran We don't need no stinking "Avatars" ! Joined: 08 Oct 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7966 |
Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jul 2016 at 3:02am | |
AMD's RX480 is having PCIE power draw issues. It appears to need more power than expected and causing problems. I don't know how it affects oc but probably not good. AMD is working on a fix but tread at your own risk..... |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jul 2016 at 3:05am | |
He knows, AMD has promised a driver update asap to deal with that. Personally I become an nvidia fan due to performance long time ago and I still am. |
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Snaike
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Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jul 2016 at 8:42am | |
Laptops must make you apoplectic. |
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FrankW
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Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jul 2016 at 10:19am | |
I am not a fan of the Bolt either as a gaming computer. Just too limiting if you want to expand your system. Also very hard to work on without pulling out something. I guess it has it applications but none that I want to deal with. It is a great package if it meets your requirements.
Frank |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jul 2016 at 3:33am | |
@Snaike, I had to look that up
@FrankW, |
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