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  Quote MatthewF Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Seeking Advice for Graphics Workstation CPU
    Posted: 02 Dec 2019 at 6:44am
Budget:
<$7000

Expectations:
Workstation for Graphic Design

Usage:
Professional Graphic Creation: Heavy Photoshop, Cinema4d

Special Needs:
Balance between single-threaded Photoshop speed/C4d modeling and multi-core Cinema 4d Rendering.

Specifications:
Workstation CPU selection help needed.

I work for a small marketing firm as a graphic designer, and need help deciding which processor would be best for a new workstation. Most of my time is divided between Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, and Cinema 4d. The Photoshop work involves imaging and retouching some really large files (can be greater than 2gb), and the Cinema 4d work involves both modeling and rendering (thus the need for as many cores/threads as I can get without sacrificing single threaded speed). Multitasking and bouncing between multiple apps is the norm.

Another thing to consider - the company tends to buy a workstation and use it for up to 8 years with little or no upgrading. So I think whatever I get, I need to plan to live with it for a long time.

I’m really leaning towards the new AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970x (32-core, 3.7GHz – 4.5Ghz)
The other considerations are
The Xeon W-3245 (16-Core, 3.2GHz – 4.4GHz)
and the i9-10980XE (18-Core, 3.0 GHz – 4.6GHz)

Are there any real advantages to the Xeon features, such as ECC memory and 6 memory channels outside of a server environment?
I’ve never had an AMD machine, but from what I’ve read, the 3970 looks really appealing. But then the new Intel i9 has the best price point – money I could allocate towards memory and video card. But like I said, I have to live with the machine for many years to come, so I can probably talk the boss into spending more if it’s really needed. Any reason to not go with the AMD?

Any and all advice is greatly appreciated.
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  Quote MatthewF Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 8:20am
Below is the configuration I'm about to submit for approval. Coming from a 8 year old i7 6-Core, I'm thinking this should have a huge impact towards improving my quality of (work) life!!!

Anyone have any suggestions/recommendations or see anything they would do different?

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Antec Performance Series P101
Processor: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X (32-Core) (Boost Up to 4.5 GHz)
Motherboard: MSI Creator TRX40 (Wi-Fi)
System Memory: 128GB DDR4 3200MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX (Extreme-Performance)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair HX1200i (Digitally Controlled Power)
Expansion Bay: Digital Media Card Reader (Black) (Internal)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 970 EVO) (NVM Express) (Extreme Performance)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB (VR Ready
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H115i PRO - 280mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal
Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Mouse Pad: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)

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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 1:26pm
Welcome to the forum MatthewF!

Powerful work build...You went with max CPU cores and RAM... I stick to Intel myself and probably would have gone with the i9-10980XE that can be Overclocked fully, so I’ll stay out of the AMD v Intel debate.    Given what you are using now, you are in for a big performance increase.   

ideas...

Use the Lumos or Velox cases instead for much better airflow and more case fans.    You will keep the case cleaner if you can see the components inside.

Use the excellent Corsair LL or best and quietest ML case fan upgrade...more effective cooling, 2 yr warranty for LL and 5 yr warranty for ML.    Control lighting creativity using Corsair iCUE software, including lights off if needed.    The ML have magnetic levitation bearings for lower friction and will last the longest.   The case fans are the first defense for longevity and daily performance of your expensive component choices. Stock low bid DS fans have only a 1 yr warranty.

Given your usage listed as a Photo & graphics content editor/creator, was surprised you only went with a RTX 2080 Super.    I would have thought you would be much better served with a RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VRAM, or a Titan RTX 24 GB VRAM.    More GPU processing cores, more VRAM.     Either way, you go, you should know that for Adobe users, earlier this year NVidia turned on Adobe color spectrum and Adobe Creative features for all NVidia RTX video cards that were previously reserved only for Quadro commercial GPU’s.    Big work use boost for RTX card users.

I'm noting you only configured a single jumbo fast 2 TB M.2 NVME Drive1 and no other drives.    Normally we would advise doing a 500 GB or 1 TB Drive1 for the op system and a few important programs, and a larger Drive2 for all other programs & content storage.    You have 2 fast M.2 slots on the motherboard to use.    It would be easy to add more M.2 space later on as it just plugs into a port on the mobo.   Assume you will have other work drives to use.

DS 1 yr Parts Warranty can be boosted to a max 3 yr part replacement coverage...an easy sell for a work funded machine with the boss.

The Corsair AX1200I Platinum Efficiency PSU is my all time fav PSU.   If for budget room you need to drop to the Corsair 850W Gold Efficiency model, yes it would be enough for 1X GPU.
The Corsair AX1200i would allow you enough power headroom to acquire a 2nd GPU in SLI/NSync if ever needed.


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  Quote MatthewF Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Dec 2019 at 11:20am

HockeyBuck
Thank you for the advice.

All my past workstations have been Intel based, so this will be my first AMD endeavor. From what I’ve read, the new Threadripper is very fast in both single-core and multi-core performance. The benchmarks are very promising, I just hope the real-world use is as good as it looks on paper. I don’t want to start an Intel vs AMD debate either, I just don’t want to make a mistake that I regret for years to come.

I hadn’t really considered other cases – I just started in the Workstation category and went from there. But I really like the Velox case, and will probably go that route.

Fan upgrade – going with the ML case fan. Very good advice, much appreciated.

My decision to go with the RTX2080 Super was purely monetary. I considered the Ti, but it’s almost $600 more. The Titan RTX 24 is way too pricey. Since I don’t use any third party GPU render engines for Cinema 4d rendering, all my 3d rendering is CPU based.   The Digital Storm support team recommended the Quatro RTX4000 over the GeForce, but since the GeForce drivers now support 10-bit color, I don’t really see the reason.

Thanks again, Matt

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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Dec 2019 at 12:39pm
Agree....NVidia will be selling fewer Quadro GPU now as they have finally recognized that many users also want to game after work with their home based work rigs.   Activating those RTX Adobe colorspace perks will sell far more RTX GPU’s and should keep far more powerful RTX cards coming down the line soon.

Good rig changes that should serve you very well.   Be aware that, to be different. lol, the DS Velox case places the motherboard and GPU upside down and thus the window on the right side.   The Lumos has the normal main window on the left side and motherboard is right side up.    Your rig is nicely designed CPU-Heavy and I suspect you will have cores and threads to spare for years to come using the AMD CPU.    Budget wise, you could easily add a 2nd SLI/N-Sync RTX 2080 Super if you find you need a reasonable GPU performance boost later on...or just plan on a GPU upgrade replacement in 3 yrs when something stronger appears from NVidia.

Let us know how the DS Order experience goes for you...
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Dec 2019 at 5:54am
From what I've seen, I think you'll find the 3790X will run rings around the i9-10980XE. (As it should for the money.) The difference from what you have should nearly astound. I, for one, would be interested to hear down the road how you think it performs. The majority of us are gamers, so it's not often we get feedback on these cutting edge procs.
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