Titan x Pascal

If Nvidia sticks with what they've done in the past, there will be no non-reference Titan X. There will undoubtedly be water blocks made for it and DS will probably use EK, which is what they use for all of their other GPU water cooling.

The 1080 SLI will probably be more powerful, but with a Titan X you will not have to deal with SLI drivers and stuttering of multiple GPUs. And then you can add a second Titan X for even more graphics power.

You are seriously going to spend over $1200 for one of those cards? The performance increase is just to small to justify twice the cost of a 1080..

Its not as fast than sli 1080 but its way faster then 1080.

Its not, faster then sli 1080 based on the specs I have seen, but lets wait and see what real world performance is.

I'm with db here with everything he said.

We do need to wait and see what the actual performance is, otherwise its just a bunch of empty assumptions.

We are talking 4k 120Hz/144Hz, otherwise is that the toilet I hear?

Last I always prefer single gpu when possible, and if you have the budget and will be looking at future 4k you should build/get a titan x, once we see the performance of course.

Edited by DST4ME - 03 Aug 2016 at 10:28pm

Originally posted by DST4ME Seen a couple of reviews of the titan pascal and so far I'm not impressed, I'm seeing 20 more fps on average from the 1080, that does not sound right.

Right, I agree..

 The performance increase is definitely not worth the price increase.

Originally posted by db188 it's a flagship card, it's not supposed to win any cost>performance awards.  however, it is the fastest single gpu on the planet with an average 29% performance gain over GTX 1080.  budget-minded pc builders don't buy these cards.  how would you like to spend $900 on 2x1070's in sli only to find out that the game you've been dying to play performs like a stuttering mess because the theoretical performance gain didn't materialize as smooth game play in the real world?  it's always the case that the last bit of performance that makes the difference costs the most.   if you look at the frame time variance bechmarks of this card you can see how smooth it is (especially compared to AMD cards).  you can get very playable 50+ FPS 4k max settings in today's toughest games (i.e. The Division).   it's not quite the 60 FPS i'd like, but it's close.  close enough to claim to be the only single gpu card out there capable of handling maxed out 4k all on its own.   still, i'd wait on recommending everyone run out an buy one until the 3rd party vendors get their hands on them and there are water blocks available.

I do not think third parties are getting these.. Not sure in what aspects there is a 29℅ improvement but it's almost twice as much money as a 1080.. definitely not twice as good.

Still it's a beast and I'd love to get one. I just cannot justify it right now at that price.

Edited by Richieboy67 - 04 Aug 2016 at 4:13am

Originally posted by DST4ME I'm with db here with everything he said. We do need to wait and see what the actual performance is, otherwise its just a bunch of empty assumptions. We are talking 4k 120Hz/144Hz, otherwise is that the toilet I hear? Last I always prefer single gpu when possible, and if you have the budget and will be looking at future 4k you should build/get a titan x, once we see the performance of course.

Lol, well put. And, I agree. Even tho I have went ahead and changed my order to include 2 GTX Titan Xs' cards in SLI, I did it with the hope that the GTX Titan Xs will be pushed to the limit via drivers, etc. So, it's basically a gamble for me buying two of these Titan X cards. Buying only one is a no-brainer as my opinion is if you can afford it, why not do it (purchase the Titan X). SLI Titans is the risk here. Having said that, you'll never know if you don't try or take risks. Think about it - we risk things all day, every day in our lives and without risks, there isn't any plausible rewards if/when we do succeed and we become much to content (IMO). :)

The TITAN X is only sold by NVIDIA, no board partners are selling it. It is also an exclusive product being sold by only a few companies, Digital Storm is one of them.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/titan-x-pascal

Originally posted by Richieboy67 Originally posted by db188 it's a flagship card, it's not supposed to win any cost>performance awards.  however, it is the fastest single gpu on the planet with an average 29% performance gain over GTX 1080.  budget-minded pc builders don't buy these cards.  how would you like to spend $900 on 2x1070's in sli only to find out that the game you've been dying to play performs like a stuttering mess because the theoretical performance gain didn't materialize as smooth game play in the real world?  it's always the case that the last bit of performance that makes the difference costs the most.   if you look at the frame time variance bechmarks of this card you can see how smooth it is (especially compared to AMD cards).  you can get very playable 50+ FPS 4k max settings in today's toughest games (i.e. The Division).   it's not quite the 60 FPS i'd like, but it's close.  close enough to claim to be the only single gpu card out there capable of handling maxed out 4k all on its own.   still, i'd wait on recommending everyone run out an buy one until the 3rd party vendors get their hands on them and there are water blocks available.   I do not think third parties are getting these.. Not sure in what aspects there is a 29℅ improvement but it's almost twice as much money as a 1080.. definitely not twice as good. Still it's a beast and I'd love to get one. I just cannot justify it right now at that price.

like i said, the budget-minded don't buy these cards.  this card gets anywhere from 10-40% FPS gain (most fall within the 29% average i mentioned) at maxed 4k settings with today's most demanding games according to initial bench marks.  it remains to be seen how mature drivers, improved cooling and over clocking will increase those gains.  i did see one review where overclocking of +150MHz on the base clock was achieved.    

as i also said, FPS isn't the sole measurement of how well a gpu performs/relates to the visual experience while playing games.  frame time variance can impact smoothness of game play.  this card's dips aren't as deep or as often as other cards (especially AMD cards).  this shows up in games as "stuttering" or "hitching".  

i think it's a mistake to make the comparison that twice the cost should equate to twice the performance.  you rarely see this in other products across the market.  in fact, most things generally perform similarly up to a certain point and you then pay significantly more for that extra performance.  how often do you see/hear that it is a fine line between greatness and mediocrity?  and getting 2 of the lesser/cheaper cards doesn't guarantee better or even same performance, because multi-gpu scaling in games is getting worse, not better.  it's an expensive gamble, whereas you get guaranteed performance with the most powerful single gpu.  

Originally posted by db188 Originally posted by Alex The TITAN X is only sold by NVIDIA, no board partners are selling it. It is also an exclusive product being sold by only a few companies, Digital Storm is one of them. currently, but they will eventually find their way into the hands of vendor partners, you can count on it.

Good luck!

Are you guys serious? EK Waterblocks are incompatible with the HB SLI Bridge from NVIDIA. So you'll have to use a subpar SLI bridge (or HB SLI bridge from EVGA or another company). If they used the Aqua computer, this wouldn't be an issue. I sure hope they've changed their stance on this.

Originally posted by DST4ME Welcome aboard Piiitabyte. The reason the Nvidia HB bridges are not "compatible" with EK is due to a stupid aesthetic design on the bridge itself and nothing on the technical side. As a result in the past many just cut the edges on the bridge that hit the block and use the HB just fine: However if I'm not mistaken now the evga hb bridges for example should fit on them fine due to the fact that evga went with the "skinny" design and the edges are no longer there to create an issue. which you mentioned yourself, I'm not sure what the problem is with using evga hb bridges.

Oh man... this is EXCELLENT news. Thank you. I don't mind cutting off some edges from the HB SLI (and even if I damage it, they cost $35 so no biggie). The reason I don't want to use the HB Bridge from EVGA is because there have been multiple reports/reviews stating that it doesn't perform on par with the NVIDIA one. If you check it on Amazon reviews, you'll get a better idea.

Originally posted by DST4ME With all due respect I have no idea of the knowlege of the user on amazon or their setup to being to figure out what is a user problem and what is actually a hardware problem. if you have creditable bench to show me I would be more then happy to look at it, but if 74% say it works fine and 4% don't then I go with the 74% Out of those 4% bunch of them are just about the led not working. If you are not comfortable cutting the edge of your bridge by all means don't, like I said most don't have an issue with it, but to each his own.

I completely agree with you. Let me do some more research regarding the diff between EVGA's and NVIDIA's.

Originally posted by DST4ME We are always open to the facts, if you happen to come across any creditable sites that have benches or info proving that evga is not up to par with the nvidia one that please let us know. We would greatly appreciate it I personally have not seen any benches showing the difference and would love to find one. From the sli benches I have seen that used the evga bridge I didn't see or read anything bad about the bridge itself.

So.. I did my due diligence, and concluded that both HB SLI bridges (EVGA and NVIDIA) are not only the same price, but they offer the same performance (2x regular SLI). The configuration I'm getting is: 1474872. For that amount of money, I'm expecting everything and the kitchen sink.

that's quite a build Piita  what are you going to do about the Riing fans and the DS control board?